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Andy McKenzie's avatar

Interesting analysis! This summer I put this together with help from a virtual assistant:

- https://cryonics.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_SST_providers

- https://cryonics.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_preservation_providers

- https://cryonics.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_long-term_care_providers

It is already out-of-date. This a useful and difficult task and I appreciate you putting in the effort.

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Max More's avatar

Very handy references, Andy, thanks! As mentioned in the article, I'll be putting together a more comprehensive comparative guide. Your lists (and Ben Best's list) will be good references for that.

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T.Theodorus Ibrahim's avatar

Andy I wanted to make a response to this on the Cryosphere discord server but I don't think I did. Key point is that there are a number of these lists now, would be good if they could be combined to prevent wasteful duplication of effort (effort which could then be directed elsewhere if we had more 'central' co-ordination I must say too).

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Andy McKenzie's avatar

Completely agreed. That's why I wanted to put the one I contributed to on the cryo wiki, where it is creative commons and easier to find. Hope to contribute to this more myself in the future.

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Rudi Hoffman's avatar

Outstanding, balanced, fair-minded and data-driven article by Max More. The distinctions seem pretty straightforward, and are not surprising to those of us who follow and care about the details of Cryopreservation organizations. CI's lack of response is unfortunate, but having attended most of the Fall meetings at CI for the last ten years, the data confirms CI does have solid and sustainable funding. Osirus is a Cryonics PR disaster waiting to happen, and I hope our community can attenuate this before some enterprising reporter decides to expose Osirus.

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Rudi Hoffman's avatar

Outstanding, balanced, fair-minded and data-driven article by Max More. The distinctions seem pretty straightforward, and are not surprising to those of us who follow and care about the details of Cryopreservation organizations. CI's lack of response is unfortunate, but having attended most of the Fall meetings at CI for the last ten years, the data confirms CI does have solid and sustainable funding. Osirus is a Cryonics PR disaster waiting to happen, and I hope our community can attenuate this before some enterprising reporter decides to expose Osirus.

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T.Theodorus Ibrahim's avatar

Paul it's very nice to see Max and co take forwards your standards proposal (to some extent at least). I feel it is important tho that this initiative be expanded to include the other elements you described and that it be embodied in a more robust and durable institutional form. Personally I feel Max would make an excellent Global Cryonics Standards Czar and lead such an effort :)

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